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Superior Spider-Man #30 is finally here, and with it comes the guy we’ve all been waiting for: Zombie Peter Parker. Fans are supposed to rejoice now that Dan Slott’s “memory fragment” of Peter Parker has assumed the role of Spider-Man after Doctor Octopus decided to call it a day — conveniently as everything was crumbling around him.  With great power comes…ducking responsibility? Since the real Peter died in Amazing Spider-Man #700 and the downloaded Otto maybe-sorta-kinda just committed suicide, fans are left to wonder: Does Spider-Man have a soul or is he an empty husk whose able to say witty one-liners and think about Uncle Ben from time to time? I suppose it’s possible that the real Peter Parker was simply brainwashed the entire time, which would mean that Dan Slott made him do all those dastardly deeds over the course of SSM’s run, but that’s a whole other can of worms.

Regardless, for those who want to know how SSM #30 transpired, all you need to know is that Otto’s love interest, Anna Maria, is being held hostage and will die unless Spider-Man finds her. As all the evil Ock has done as Spider-Man has come back to haunt him, he realizes that only Peter Parker could save Anna, and thus he relinquishes the role of the hero back to Peter.

Fans of the book are supposed to sniffle just a wee bit as Otto disappears into a Dr. Manhattan-blue mind dust and gets wind-swept into the super unknown. This fails because people who aren’t suffering from anterograde amnesia remember that this is the same character who blew a guy’s face off at point blank range only months ago.
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And it’s the guy who wanted to surpass “Pol Pot, Hitler and Genghis Khan” in terms of evil perpetrated upon the world — “combined!” just over a year ago.

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So the question becomes: Was it worth it? If you’re like Dan Slott and you only think in terms of sales, then yes.

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If you’re like the retailer who went online to criticize the book because some things (i.e., the integrity of a character) are more important to you than a buck, then no.

Justin Bieber sells a lot of tickets, but the world knows he’s no Jack White. Dan Slott sells a lot of comics (by 2014 standards), but the world knows that sales are but one metric by which success is measured. As the years go by, critics will come to regard the Superior Spider-Man more as a bizarre embarrassment in the character’s rich history than a run to be treasured and adored.

To make matters worse, there’s also collateral damage to consider. Take how dumb The Avengers have become during the course of Superior Spider-Man. Their stupidity reaches a crescendo in issue number #30 as Iron Man and Captain America freak out about an “illegal medical facility” that Spider-Man turned a blind eye to. Blowing off a guy’s face as he’s on his hands and knees in front of you? Eh. Taking a page out of President Obama’s NSA spying scandal playbook and putting an entire city under surveillance? Zzzz. Amassing a militia of thugs and arming them with an arsenal that would cause Libyan Islamic terrorists to giggle like schoolgirls (if they allowed girls to attend school)? Yawn.

Didn’t go through the proper bureaucratic red tape necessary to open a medical center? Gasp! Dan Slott’s and Christos Gage’s Captain America wants to “arrest” that man. The Department of Health and Human Services is going to hear about this one, buster.

 

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Should the world be happy that Peter Parker is back? Sure. But the problem is that we don’t know if he’s back because, as far as Dan Slott is concerned, a “memory fragment” without a soul is just as good as the real thing.

H/T to Colossus of Rhodey for the “sales” tweet.

And with that, I give you a preview of Jack White’s new album “Lazaretto.” Dan, since I know you’re reading this, I suggest listening to “High Ball Stepper” while imagining me doing the vocals two inches from your face. As long as you continue to write Spider-Man, I will continue to write high ball steppin’ reviews. Cheers.

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About the Author Douglas Ernst

I'm a former Army guy who believes success comes through hard work, honesty, optimism, and perseverance. I believe seeing yourself as a victim creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. I believe in God. I'm a USC Trojan with an MA in Political Science from American University.

57 comments

  1. Hey Douglas,

    Careful with the Justin Beiber analogy. Dan Slott once replied to me saying it was silly to use such an analogy, but I think it fits perfectly. 🙂

    Gotta love Jack White though. Heard this on the radio yesterday. A real musician! He’s also into Analogue Studio Recording equipemnt, so I dare say the new album would’ve been recorded in Analogue format with lots of old style vintage tube gear.

    1. Careful with the Justin Beiber analogy. Dan Slott once replied to me saying it was silly to use such an analogy, but I think it fits perfectly.

      How does it not fit? He’s obsessed with sales. He acts as if sales is the only metric by which success is judged. It’s a perfect analogy that, in all credit to my brother, he used quite some time ago. I think I gave him credit in one of my previous blog posts or the comments section…but I can’t quite remember. Regardless, it’s spot on.

      Gotta love Jack White though. Heard this on the radio yesterday. A real musician! He’s also into Analogue Studio Recording equipemnt, so I dare say the new album would’ve been recorded in Analogue format with lots of old style vintage tube gear.

      Very cool news! I think he’s a musical genius. Did you see his SNL performance of Sixteen Saltines? Wow…

  2. Left this one on an earlier article, but it applies more to this one….

    What put me off to this issue, despite Peter returning was how he says that Doc Ock truly loved Anna-Marie. “You really love her….”, more like “You really love that woman you shamelessly seduced while under a stolen identity, whom you never trusted with the secret of your real identity because she would’ve taken the first spaceship off of the Earth after exposing your identity to the authorities.” I actually like Anna, so it honestly pains me to see such a likable character fall for such a stupid charade.

    Also, I’m pretty sure Slott never bothered to explain if SpOck and Peter in Otto’s body were digital copies or the real thing. Kinda seems like a glaring plot hole that should’ve been explained.

    But hey, I’m just a guy who has ADHD and Aspergers, and to Dan Slott, that means my criticism is invalid and it “explains a lot” (actual quote) about my behavior when I interacted with him.

    1. Yeah, if he never trusted her with his 1/100 of his secrets I don’t know how he can say he loved her. Who knows. She’s a nice character, but I can see them doing something where Peter falls in love with her, Otto comes back, love triangle, etc. You can thank me for the idea later, Dan Slott… That actually would not have been such a bad idea if the whole body-snatching thing didn’t occur — and if someone else was in charge of writing it.

      Bottom line: Peter belongs back with M.J., but at this point they’ve beaten that relationship to a pulp so I don’t know how to put it back together again.

      But hey, I’m just a guy who has ADHD and Aspergers, and to Dan Slott, that means my criticism is invalid and it “explains a lot” (actual quote) about my behavior when I interacted with him.

      If I was like Dan Slott I would stalk him all over the internet, use the caps lock key, and remind him of the time he was incredibly insulting to a guy with Aspergers. Then I’d call him a “bad person” and talk about Climate Change. 😉

      In all seriousness, though, the best revenge is just to rise above him. I’m not sure if you’ll interact with him again online, but just stay on point and eventually he’ll do himself in. He can’t resist the personal attack or the red herring. As it goes on, fair-minded readers can see that the so-called “professional” isn’t so professional.

    2. Ugh. A “memory fragment?” That’s what the revived Peter Parker is? Real “creative” there, Slott. I knew that he was going to pull some stupid stunt like that. I wish they’d just bring back the real Peter, his marriage to MJ and retcon all of the OMD/SSM/memory fragment nonsense and forget it ever happened. But when you have immature narcissists like Slott writing the story, it all plays out like really bad fanfiction.

      I love how that clown continues to scream “sales, sales, sales” without providing any actual statistics. Even if it is selling as well as he claims he does, that doesn’t mean he’s putting out a quality product. Twilight sells well, but that doesn’t mean it’s a good book series.

      And I’ve always liked this song by the White Stripes. I was in seventh grade when it was released and remember hearing it played at a few pep fests:

    3. Also, part of me wonders if all this affirmation of Doc Ock’s love for Anna may have been influenced by all that intellectual body slamming we gave Slott on the issue. While I’m not going to go nuts and claim credit for something like that, I honestly want to know when exactly Slott finished the script for this issue, and whether or not it was before or after my little “chat” with him.

    4. Only Dan Slott would be able to quantify how much interactions with specific fans have influenced the book, but is undeniable that you have — even if it’s in an infinitesimal way. I’m guessing that if you were to ask the man he would laugh and say fans like us have had zero effect on him. He might even believe it. But whether he’s conscious of it or not, you have affected him.

      When he’s alone in front of the keyboard he knows, deep down, when his critics have a good point. He can rant and rave and mock people all he wants via Twitter, on websites, etc., but when it’s just Dan Slott facing down the computer screen he thinks about what his critics have said and adjusts accordingly. How he adjusts is another conversation entirely. He might know that his critics are right, but then double down on stupid just to be spiteful. He might know that his critics are right, but just make a marginal shift in their direction. Again, we’ll never know because we’re not in his head.

  3. A memory fragment? I wonder if slott has ever heard the term Deus ex machina?

    For someone who claims to have spent 100 issues of amazing planning superior this is the best he could come up with?

    On another thread I joked that the big change to come with the new amazing was that it would reveal doc ock should have been bitten by the spider that bit peter. Rather worryingly it appears that another person is bitten by the spider after it bit peter. Its a woman which will probably lead to peter Parker’s 2nd death to be replaced by “the superior Islamic apider-woman!”

    Thank you all for the white stripes and jack white links guys. Looking forward to his new album.

    1. I can see Marvel putting together a team of Mr. Atheist, Captain New Age, Wiccan Woman and Ms. Marvel. They would go up against the “bad guy” — Mr. Christian — who is controlled behind the scenes by the Catholic Church. ***cue ominous music***

    2. Sounds like a sure fire hit. Could be a writing collaboration between Slott and Willow Wilson.

    3. I personally wonder whatever happened to the fact that I’ve seen myself at least once in the comic itself, that Peter’s unique biology is what gave him spider powers and not death by radiation poisoning.

  4. Now I am not saying I disagree with you, because far from it: I’ve been on your side with the Slott debacle since Day 1. But if I was a smart writer at Marvel, I would un-do this with the following:

    “Spider-Man! You’re under arrest!”
    “Wait! Wait! It wasn’t me!”
    They obviously don’t believe him and take him in, but in DOING so he asks them to do a full telepathic and brain scan (ie. what they SHOULD HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE.) and let them know he was telling the truth: Doc Ock was running amok with his body.

    Now while I don’t think that will un-do all the damage that has happened, it at least is a step in the right direction. Will they go that route? Probably not. If I was a betting man, I’d say they will most likely have Spidey on the run, save the day, and then go into hiding, which is stupid because most of them know who Peter Parker really is, and that alone is an 800lbs gorilla in the room. But through the magic of bad writing and plot holes, that is EXACTLY what will happen.

    But really what would raise the Avengers IQ several notches is if they FINALLY figure out that it wasn’t Peter in his own body, but Ock.

    As for the “death” and “soul” thing, this is the Marvel Universe where people can come back from the dead and alter reality with a thought. What is to say that Peter never really left and was just knocked comatose? We don’t really know. I am just happy Peter’s back, but I will feel better about it when a different writer takes over. That’s just my two cents though. Cheers 😀

    1. Thanks for writing, Matt. Yes, I believe in time The Avengers will know the truth. However, it’s still telling that they had to be turned into fools in order for SSM to “work” (the the extent that it actually did). The same thing with characters like M.J., etc.

      As for the “death” and “soul” thing, this is the Marvel Universe where people can come back from the dead and alter reality with a thought. What is to say that Peter never really left and was just knocked comatose? We don’t really know. I am just happy Peter’s back, but I will feel better about it when a different writer takes over. That’s just my two cents though.

      But that’s the thing — there has been no clarification. You can’t say he “died” but then he’s back to life because a “memory fragment” remained. If he died, his soul has been somewhere else. If he didn’t die and was really brainwashed, say that. In this case the writers can’t really have it both ways.

    2. well to be fair, one could make the argument that the soul of Peter lingered in a state of limbo because he wasn’t really entirely dead. Kind of like a foot in both realms. His sub-conscious remained in his body while his active thoughts jumped ship. Torn between two realms. Heck it opens an interesting story opportunity with Doctor Strange, but that’s my theory, otherwise he wouldn’t have been able to influence Ock (for both good and bad) throughout the piece. Remember, in a comic book universe, souls are a common plot device, but from a moral stance, if half of him still lives, even if just as a sub-conscious memory fragment, the argument could be made that his soul isn’t really gone, but it’s certainly on its way out. It’s a certainly interesting metaphysical argument that a more competent writer could play with and have that be the next development for Peter and is a sort of micro-chasm and metaphor for trying to re-build his own life throughout.

    3. I would say you’re not being “fair,” but nicely pointing out just how far short Mr. Slott’s writing falls of greatness with this character.

      Everything you said was logical and worth exploring. Unfortunately, I see none of it happening while the current writer is on board.

  5. I did read issue #30. My interpretation is that all Peter’s memories still survived and he took them all back. Maybe I’m wrong. Even if I’m right, Dan might still play things out differently. Personally, I would like to see Doc survive. Perhaps help out Peter, in the form of the living brain. But Dan is always publishing false leads – like Liz having the Goblin mask. What is that all about? Or could the cavity in the Green Goblin, really be from Doc Ock’s missing body? Kind of like figuring out what the Walking Dead AMC Terminus is really about,, from comic story clues.

    1. But where is Peter’s soul? If he actually died in ASM #700, then his soul is gone. Is “memory Peter” now hijacking Doctor Octopus’ soul? Was Peter just brainwashed the whole time? Are we reading The Amazing Spider-Carbon-Copy Memory Man? It’s ridiculous.

      Spider-Man Crawlspace expands on this convoluted mess and breaks it down rather nicely:

      “Consider how Peter is able to have all his memories restored. If you recall in Amazing Spider-Man #700, Doc Ock already had access to Peter’s memories and that Peter, just before he died, was forcing Otto to experience specific memories, not all of them. The proof is in Superior Spider-Man #19, #26, and #27, in which we are informed that after Otto tried to erase Peter back in Superior Spider-Man #9, the only memories Peter had left are those Otto already “peaked at and committed to memory” and “the ones [Peter] shared with [Otto]” which totaled to only 31 memories. Yet somehow, Peter is able regain memories that Otto never experienced, never accessed, had systematically erased, and therefore should no longer have. Are we supposed to surmise the memories Otto erased got stored in some “trash can icon” deep within his subconscious? Ordinarily, I would overlook something like this were it not for the fact the entire story hinges upon this moment. And I’m sorry, but from a storytelling standpoint, Dan Slott and Christos Gage cannot just arbitrarily violate the very rules about Peter’s memories that they established over and over again to have the resolution they want. After all, cheating is still cheating, and it makes the entire subplot of Peter only having 31 memories feel like a complete waste of time.”

      Boom. That is a devastating blow. As usual, I find it odd how Spider-Man Crawlspace can utterly destroy the book in the review and then end up giving it even a C+ grade. This paragraph alone would tank the book. Oh, well. I guess I should just be happy the author jammed this intellectual dagger in SSM’s gut and twisted it off to begin with.

    2. There are several things that again, make this incredibly sloppy writing. No “undone” death at Marvel has ever been even remotely mentioned in regard to a soul. Nobody has ever come back from a real death and actually claimed to have seen or experienced anything. I would guess the very concept is written down somewhere as a law that isn’t violated. “Don’t breach the subject of the afterlife.” It would cause major problems, I would think, if Marvel aligned itself with a specific religion’s afterlife depiction.

      Regarding Peter and the 31 memories. I hope this is addressed. Otherwise, it is one of the worst cases of ignoring your own plot points in order to fit the outcome. The other is #700. SOMEBODY died in that body. We were made to believe it was Peter, since he was actively addressing SpOck until he croaked. There was no complete transfer, because there was still Peter’s consciousness in Ock’s body as it died. The forums abound with comments like “Get over it” when people genuinely want to know what the hell happened, and honestly, the written word can be open to interpretation, but this sort of thing is not. In this case, you are not left with the feeling that there could be something else going on, but then again, we’ve had Captain America come back in a ridonkulous way.

      Anyway, I digress. We now have a sister/not sister/sister, a second person bitten by a radioactive spider when previously, anyone else would have died because Peter’s biology was unique (but isn’t), and a digitally written memory fragment that has a soul.

      Now, Slott has said he told a horrible lie in order to keep SSM going, and I have a few theories on that, but it is starting to shake out that the memory fragment wasn’t ever supposed to be a random accident, and that it was Peter all along. Damn. I’m getting another headache, because there have been more than that one lie. “Peter is dead!” Wait, no, that’s not it. Integrity is dead.

    3. Nobody has ever come back from a real death and actually claimed to have seen or experienced anything. I would guess the very concept is written down somewhere as a law that isn’t violated. “Don’t breach the subject of the afterlife.” It would cause major problems, I would think, if Marvel aligned itself with a specific religion’s afterlife depiction.

      This seems weird to me on Marvel’s part. I don’t see why they can’t have Nightcrawler and Daredevil experience a “Cathoic” death, Ms. Marvel experience a Muslim death, and other characters experience death in ways that would line up with their own beliefs in the afterlife. Since the afterlife is mysterious anyway, there wouldn’t need to be a way to explain it in detail. If anything, characters can make a joke out of it: “I don’t know what the deal is, Black Widow. Next time I die I’ll make sure to ask God why Valhalla also apparently exists.”

      Now, Slott has said he told a horrible lie in order to keep SSM going, and I have a few theories on that, but it is starting to shake out that the memory fragment wasn’t ever supposed to be a random accident, and that it was Peter all along. Damn. I’m getting another headache, because there have been more than that one lie. “Peter is dead!” Wait, no, that’s not it. Integrity is dead.

      For those who are interested, here’s the link to Dan Slott admitted he has told a “horrible lie.”

      “There’s a horrible lie myself & others have been telling in order to keep a Superior Spider-Man secret. What will happen when you find out?” — Dan Slott, March 12, 2014.

    4. As I’m the author of the review, Doug, and having read some of your past articles, you do raise a very legitimate and valid point. I agree that the grade I gave for Superior Spider-Man #30 would’ve been far lower for the very things you cited from my review were it not for some elements which, in my opinion, allowed this issue to still get a decent enough grade.. This included Guiseppe Camuncoli’s illustrations, which I believe have been quite fantastic throughout, and some key moments which I thought worked rather well, such as the scene in the subway where SpOck thinks his love interest, Anna Maria Marconi, is in danger only to see it’s actually the little girl he operated on back in Superior Spider-Man #8. Not to mention, although there’s the whole matter of whether or not this is the real Peter who is actually back, there is still some sense of euphoria over seeing Peter as Spider-Man again.. Also, to be fair, the overall story isn’t quite over just yet, as this was just part 4 of a five part story. In other words, the issue was *this close* to tanking but had enough positive aspects to still keep it afloat in my opinion. Anyways, thanks for reading the review and great article as always..

    5. Wow. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment, Mike. I really appreciate it. I give you extra kudos because now you’ve opened yourself up for a certain someone to slime you for daring to interact with me…

      I agree that the grade I gave for Superior Spider-Man #30 would’ve been far lower for the very things you cited from my review were it not for some elements which, in my opinion, allowed this issue to still get a decent enough grade.. This included Guiseppe Camuncoli’s illustrations, which I believe have been quite fantastic throughout…

      I’ll second that. I can’t lie on that one.

      Also, to be fair, the overall story isn’t quite over just yet, as this was just part 4 of a five part story.

      I suppose we’ll find out what the “big lie” Dan Slott was talking about prett soon, then. If Peter was brainwashed the entire time…I’m not going to be a happy camper.

  6. Just as (sort of) an aside, I picked up the (Avengers) trade of “Fear Itself” from my school’s library. It’s written by Bendis. And it’s awful. I cannot believe how ridiculous the dialogue is. I thought comics today are written for a more mature audience? But everyone talked as if they were 14 year-old Valley Girls.

    1. Bendis can often be hit and miss with his stuff. My personal favorite comic from him was the Spider-Men miniseries, and his work on Ultimate Spider-Man (Especially Miles Morales) was pretty great.

    2. The only Bendis comic I ever liked was “Secret War” and that’s it. I agree with Hube; everyone in Bendis’ comics talks like immature Valley Girls. I think he watched one too many episodes of Buffy, which is a good show but the dialogue was often ridiculous there, too. So much for being aimed at a mature audience.

    3. I like Bendis’s work on Spider-Men too. I’m actually glad that Spider-Men 2 was announced recently and that Dan Slott is not involved.

      Personally I think Slott has been trying to one-up Bendis for years. Think about it, Bendis kills Peter, Slott kills Peter, Bendis announces Spider-Men 2, Slott announces Spider-Verse. Bendis on the other hand has ridiculed storylines like OMD in his avengers run for years and recently has been ridiculing SSM on his tumblr (he once referred to is as Grand Theft Otto).

      In regards to the zombie Peter Parker debate (whether this is the real Peter or a memory of a memory), I’m actually hoping this doesn’t lead to some sort of “Memory Clone Saga” where some other character comes along who is revealed to be the “real Peter Parker” (having been alive and elsewhere after issue 700). *shudder*

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      hink about it, Bendis kills Peter, Slott kills Peter, Bendis announces Spider-Men 2, Slott announces Spider-Verse. Bendis on the other hand has ridiculed storylines like OMD in his avengers run for years and recently has been ridiculing SSM on his tumblr (he once referred to is as Grand Theft Otto).

      Ha! I don’t think I heard that before. Very funny.

  7. Not everything Bendis writes is gold, but I prefer his Peter Parker over Slotts’ anyday.

    I like the fact that Bendis alludes to crap writing like OMD & SSM. Is there some sort of professional jealously going on with Slott?

    I also find the current throwback to poor 60’s dialogue by Slott puzzling. The writing reflects the nonsensical parody that SSM truly is. The glorious and dramatic “Stan Lee” 60’s dialogue cannot be bettered by a contemporary copy-cat.

    Whilst Marvel does employ writers capable of mature and sophisticated storylines, it’s too bad they don’t extend that talent to it’s flagship title.

    1. Whilst Marvel does employ writers capable of mature and sophisticated storylines, it’s too bad they don’t extend that talent to it’s flagship title.

      Urg. Yes, I’ve had this talk with my brother for years now. It’s strange how Marvel can get such an important character so wrong for so many years.

    2. I’ve said it before, but I don’t think the character ever fully recovered from the Clone Saga. Since then it’s been nothing but absolutely abysmal storylines.

  8. “Memory fragment without a soul is just as good as the real thing” YES. This is what I’ve been saying for a while now. That’s NOT Peter. It’s a memory fragment. That’s it.

    1. Thanks for the comment, TheOrangeMask. Frustrating, isn’t it? I can’t wait until a new writer is entrusted with Peter Parker, because it seems as though the book will continue to suffer until that happens.

  9. What honestly annoys me about Slott is how smug the guy is about his “success”. Dude needs to get it into his head that he’s writing for Marvel’s flagship superhero, of course his book’s sales won’t tank, even after he jumped the shark and did a back-flipping pirouette off the deep end. Danny-boy can toss whatever slop he can muster onto his those pages, and still, a lot of people will buy them. It doesn’t matter if Ock is horrible at hiding his identity, or if the supporting characters can’t put 2 and 2 together on just about anything, or that Doc Ock, from start to finish, was a coward who’s story was barely worth following, because it was obvious how it would end. There were so many ways this story could have been interesting, but it never was meant to be. At best this was a pointless interim that may or may not be cleaned up in a few months of the new ASM (someone remind me to needle Slott about it if that happens). Not even going to bother with the new Amazing Spider-Man series, I’m sticking with Miles Morales and the Ultimate universe.

    – Sincerely; that “poster child for internet stupidity” who’s opinions don’t matter because he has mental disorders (according to Dan Slott)

    1. Hey Doug, issue 31 is out today, you might want to check it out just to do a final wrap up of the Freaky Friday saga that is SSM. I haven’t read it yet, but one detail was spoiled for me that cemented how lazily this series was written.

    2. I’ll definitely try and get to it sometime soon, psychokineticex. Not sure when that will be with work, Easter and a move in the next two weeks, but if possible I’ll definitely knock it out. In a worst case scenario I’ll do some sort of mash-up with with the ASM relaunch.

  10. My local comic book store lets me read them off the shelf with no obligation to buy which is pretty cool. I’ve read a few SSM that way as well as my cousin’s set and I’m glad I did not waste my money on such infantile nonsense.

    Anyway, the store manager asked me the other day if I wanted ASM back on my pull list now that Peter Parker has returned?

    My answer was as long as Slott & Ramos are associated with it, I want nothing to do with it.

    1. That’s basically how I feel. He wanted to burn bridges with the fans by mocking anyone who disagreed with him, so I’ll withhold my cash until he’s out of the picture. The free market is nice like that. 🙂

  11. Fantastic new everyone, Slott’s at it again.

    Two weeks ago, a buddy of mine left a comment on the YT video where Slott, Douglas and I argued on, and Slott just got back to us. He’s salty as hell.

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    1. I concur. He’s also back up to that thing he does where he blatantly lies about my blog when he must know that anyone with a brain can Google the posts in question and see how desperate he must be.

      Dear Dan Slott,

      Do you find it odd that I keep giving people the title of the blog posts you reference? If your claims were even remotely true I would not do that, but because you are a liar I want the whole word to see it. You are either a liar, or you are delusional. What a great mind to have writing Peter Parker. Way to go, Marvel.

    2. Slott needs help. Tons of it. I’ve never seen such an immature man-child before in my life (other than my sister’s loser boyfriend, but that’s not here or there). Really, Marvel? This is you’ve entrusted to write Spider-Man? A total baby who spends much of his time trolling the internet, reading about himself and starting nasty fights with people simply because they don’t like his story? Grow up, Slott. If you can’t handle criticism, you shouldn’t be involved in the entertainment field. Period. Ignore what others are saying about you instead of picking fights with them and threatening legal action against them. Maybe your stories wouldn’t suck if you spent more time writing and less time trolling.

    3. His latest comment is that I “cowardly” took down the photo from my post “Is Dan Slott’s ‘Superior Spider-Man’ really a Superior anti-Semite?” He also says I’m a “terrible” person.

      Actually, I took down the photo at the request of Rogue (Vicky), who also took Dan Slott to task. I also said I’d have no qualms putting it back up.

      I told Vicky it would be interesting if she commented in the YouTube thread to Dan Slott. I’m not sure if she will, but it would be golden.

      Dan Slott’s moral relativism has so warped his brain that I’m a “terrible” person on par with very real murderers and genocidal maniacs (like he referenced in ASM). Sad.

    4. That’s all he has. Calling you “terrible” and a “coward.” And he always does it from a distance, because if he came here, he’d be outnumbered and none of his sycophantic fanboys would be able to come out of the woodwork and defend him without getting intellectually body-slammed themselves.

      Slott doesn’t understand what it means to act like a mature adult. Rogue/Vicky does.

    5. That’s the funny thing: he could send all his fan boys here to back him up. He’s the guy with 48,000 Twitter followers. Even if 25 percent of them are inactive accounts, that’s still a ton of people. If he wanted to really “set the record” straight and bring in his Dan Slott Ego Massage Squad he could do that. He doesn’t come here because he knows that the actual text he’s trying to distort is literally right above his lies. He can’t lie here and get away with it, so he sticks to calling me a “terrible” person on other platforms across the Internet.

    6. Psychokineticex,

      Are you seeing these last two comments I made on the YouTube video? I see them when I’m logged in, but not otherwise. Does YouTube have a thing where someone can delete your comments, but you still see what you wrote? That’s weird. What is there content-wise that would warrant a deletion here?

      Douglas Ernst9 hours ago (edited)

      +PsychokineticEX

      But that’s the thing: even in his “defense,” he uses a rhetorical question I asked — to highlight absurdity — and then frames it in a way where someone who actually read the blog post would say: “Umm, Dan, you’re the one whose being deceptive.” Again, this would all be clear if you could see Mr. Slott’s interpretation of what I said right below the actual blog post. There is a reason why he goes to great lengths to avoid having that happen.

      The post in question is: ‘Dan Slott: I treated Peter Parker like a ‘meat puppet,’ but ‘Learning to Crawl’ will respect his history.’ I posed the question he referenced as a launching pad to show how he and Marvel used anger to drive sales. Instead of uniting all fans of Spider-Man, they needlessly drove wedges between them. But again, he doesn’t want you to know that. He’d rather you just think I’m a ‘terriblebaddeceptivestupid’ person.
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      Douglas Ernst9 hours ago (edited)

      +PsychokineticEX

      Side note: Dan Slott wants people to believe I’m “deceptive,” a “weasel,” and someone who is an evil master of “semantics,” but yet I’m also “stupid,” “insane” and incapable of capturing nuance. Which is it? The truth is, he knows I’m highly intelligent. He’s admitted as much on CBR, where he said something along the lines of: “You know exactly what you’re doing.” Here’s the truth: Dan Slott does not think I am stupid — he thinks other people are stupid. Follow his Twitter feed and you will soon see evidence of this, as it manifests itself in his political tweets. Essentially, people are so stupid that they need 535 elitist masters in the nation’s capital to control every aspect of their lives. If politics isn’t your thing, no problem: he regularly insults fans who have legitimate gripes with his work.

  12. I don’t know if it’s still relevant at this point, what with “Superior” having ended and all, but I made an image that sums up Dan Slott’s storytelling methods and his reaction to online criticism:

    http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/738583-muh

    I also saw that someone took one such flaw of the storytelling that has been used for the arc and exposed it in a funny way:

    http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/737476-marvel-comics

    As for the comic – as happy as I am that Peter’s back, I felt like the grand finale should have been extended for another issue – one should have just been Peter saving the day, and the other should have been Peter dealing with the fallout and taking responsibility for Ock’s misdoings. Cramming it into a single issue leaves it feeling rushed.

    Also, I can’t stand how they just wrote Mary Jane out of the series by her just getting fed up with the stuff Peter runs into and skipping town. Seriously, she’s been through a whole lot worse (including nearly dying on a couple of occasions), and having her just up and leave because a body-snatcher showed up seems mean-spirited. Plus, it sounds like another excuse for the higher-ups at Marvel to keep Peter and MJ away from each other.

    1. Haha. I like your meme, Kung Fu Cthulhu! You’re on the money with that one. The second one is a classic, too. I reader linked to that in the past and gave me a good laugh.

      I’ve been busy at work, so I didn’t get a chance to write up a review on this last issue. From what I’ve seen online, it seems like people are just confused by the rushed nature of it all, as you point out. From what I’ve seen of the M.J., scene I’d agree with you. It really bugs me that they’ve done everything in their power to undermine the character. One day ASM will actually have an all-star creative team behind it, and it will be glorious! 🙂

    2. I’m more than okay with it; in fact, I’m sort of honored!

      If you could make it so the picture has a hyperlink to the page I uploaded it to, that would be appreciated.

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