Under normal circumstances I would never write about Cenk Uygur of “The Young Turks.” However, it turns out that he named his son “Prometheus Maximus” as a metaphorical middle finger to the God he … doesn’t believe in. While years from now people will make the mistake of thinking his son was named after the Simpsons episode where Homer goes by Max Power, I still wanted to hear Mr. Uygur’s reasoning.
The Young Turks’ YouTube channel provides his answer:
Host: For the first question … How did you come up with the awesome name for your son? I wouldn’t have thought of that in a million years. Go!
Cenk Uygur: All right. My son’s name is Prometheus Maximus. Prometheus is my favorite mythical character of all time ’cause he had the nerve, the courage to challenge the gods to say ‘I’m going to help humanity.’ It’s the kind of thing the rest of mythology is set up to hate. … No, bow your head. Bow your head to God … In all religions, Christianity, it said bow your head to God, listen to whatever he says, do not challenge him, even if, for example, he slaughters everyone on earth as he did, you know, doing that that little fun thing called the flood with Noah’s Ark. Literally almost everyone but Noah’s family was killed. Support. Bow your head and support. No. Prometheus said I’m not going to bow my head. I’m going to take fire and give it to humans. Lovely.
Before we begin exposing Mr. Uygur’s confusion, we must first point out how sad it is that he has to crib Bill Maher’s old jokes, in which the Real Time host called the God … he doesn’t believe in … a “psychotic mass murderer” for bringing forth the flood. If this is some sort of new talking point among liberal atheist pundits, then we might as well address it now.
As Whittaker Chambers eloquently put it long ago, “Between man’s purposes in time and God’s purpose in eternity, there is an infinite qualitative difference.” That Mr. Uygur thinks his tiny insignificant mind could wrap itself around the purpose in eternity that God’s actions serve is quite hilarious. Consider this: A man who struggles to understand basic economics actually believes he could comprehend the actions of a being with the power to bring space and time into existence.
God’s role as the Creator also poses another conundrum: Whose life is it? Is it yours, or is it God’s? The Christian would say that his existence belongs to the one who breaths life into him every second of every day — God. Since life is only sustained by God, getting upset at Him for ending it makes no sense. Raising a fist in anger and shaking it at God for those who died in the flood assumes that the lives lost actually belonged to the departed. They did not. Mr. Uygur doesn’t understand that the body he has is essentially a rental home that houses his spirit for a short time before it returns to its Father.
And finally, while the young Turk may pride himself on his literary knowledge, it is quite apparent that he hasn’t read up on Dante.
In Canto XX of “The Inferno,” Dante weeps for those in hell and is instantly rebuked by his guide Virgil:
Truly I wept, leaning upon a peak
Of the hard crag, so that my Escort said
To me: “Art thou, too, of the other fools?
Here pity lives when it is wholly dead;
Who is a greater reprobate than he
Who feels compassion at the doom divine?”
God is certainly capable of separating the wheat from the chaff, and yet Mr. Uygur laments the “slaughter” of those in the flood. Those who wind up in hell do so because that is the choice they made with the free will they were given. Trying to elicit sympathy for those who made the conscious decision to reject God does not work with those who know Him.
Jesus says in John 10: 14-16:
I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.
He also says in John 13: 12-17 after washing Peter’s feet:
Do you know what I have done to you? You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am. If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another’s feet. For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you. Most assuredly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him. If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them.
That is a God who is worthy of endless bows. That is a God to listen to and obey. If the world wants to mock His followers as “sheep,” then it is a pejorative worth embracing because He truly is a “good shepherd.”
The funny thing is that despite Mr. Uygur’s efforts to deny his spirit, he can not rid himself of the tinctures of truth that flow through his mind:
Host: Do you believe in ghosts/paranormal activity?
Cenk Uygur: No, because I’m a rational human being. But not quite as rational as I make out. I will confess to two things: One is I know it’s not right, but from time to time I think I’ll look at signs or something and think, “Oh, is that a message?” And I’m like, ‘ Knuckle head, of course it’s not a message!’ … The second thing is one I’m perfectly proud of: I keep an open mind, meaning I haven’t foreclosed on the idea that there might be things that happen on this planet and in this universe that we haven’t yet figured out.
It is incredibly difficult to ignore the stinging slap of synchronicity, and yet the man deludes himself into thinking otherwise with each message that comes his way. He says he has an open mind while slamming it shut. He believes that with enough time humans can “figure out” the totality of the universe, when the person who truly possesses an open mind understands that perhaps reality exists in ways our five senses are incapable of detecting.
In a world of sentient AM radios, many of them would call frequency modulation a myth. Some of them would even name their AM radio kids “Prometheus.” Luckily, there is always hope that those who deny the truth today will accept it before it’s too late.
Hey Douglas, speaking of New Atheists, what do you think of a really solid way to show that the statement ‘All of the atheist mass murderers in history were so mass murderous because they mimicked religion’ is full of hollow and BS rhetoric that can be turned against he who states such bull? Could it be that the atheist is essentially trying to redefine religion as violence or inherently violent or something along those lines?
When humans deny God they replace Him with something else — usually themselves — and it ends horribly. It’s not that they’re imitating religion as much as they’re imitating Satan’s rebellion against God.
Read Milton’s “Paradise Lost” and just highlight everything Satan says if you want to get into the mind of dictators who see themselves as gods-among-men. (You can apply this to anyone who seeks to stifle free will, for that matter).
As Milton’s God says in Book III:
It’s not that mass murderers “mimic” religion. It’s that human beings suffer from original sin. We’re fallen creatures. It’s pretty hard to convince a guy like Mr. Uygur of that because he deceives himself. Like I said, he says he’s “proud” of his open mind without having any clue that he has gigantic mental blinders on. It’s humorous, yet quite sad at the same time.
While I would indeed accept that answer, the answer I desired was more towards showing the hollowness of such rhetoric in a more, funnily enough,’secular’ way.
Well, I could do that, but the question becomes “Mimic religion how?” I don’t even know what that means. It’s gobbledygook on their part. Is Coke or Pepsi “proselytizing” when they market their products? Does your personal trainer proselytize when he tries to convince you to adopt his workout routine? Does your mom use “religious inculcation” when she tells you it’s important to eat your vegetables? The list can go on and on.
The funny thing about a lot of atheists is that they refuse to acknowledge that their non-belief has become their religion.
Well said, Cenk seems to have a lot of rage against something that he does not believe exists. Why do people that do not believe in God attack him? Could it be that they themselves want to be a God or they refuse to admit that they are not at the top of the power structure?
I have an idea for a blog post on the anger issue that I’ve been turning around in my head for awhile. I guess I’m just waiting for the right opportunity to write it. Long story short, I can see why someone would be angry if they looked around the world, saw injustices happening all around them, and then they came to the conclusion that many of the perpetrators of those injustices would never be held accountable for their actions. That must be rather a depressing and maddening experience.
You and I know that an individual can hide his hypocrisy from man, but he cannot hide hypocrisy from God. That is very comforting. A man can be at peace — he can suffer any injustice — if he believes in his heart and soul that justice will be served in the end.
As Johnny Cash said: “Sooner or later, God will cut you down.”
Why do people that do not believe in God attack him?
– We attack the delusional people who believe in a god or gods, the god (your god specifically) doesn’t exist.
Could it be that they themselves want to be a God
– No. People want to be people. Atheists do not believe in gods, therefore they do not want to be a god as the whole concept of gods is invalid to an atheist.
or they refuse to admit that they are not at the top of the power structure?
– No. Christians and other religious people refuse to admit that they are at the top of the power structure and that when they die, life ends. nothing more. See what I did there?
But good try….maybe take christian apologetics 101 and get some new tactics. These tired arguments have been debated and debated over and over and over. No christian or any other religious person has any verifiable evidence that their god exists.
“No christian or any other religious person has any verifiable evidence that their god exists.”
Newsflash: You have zero evidence that God does not exist.
I would argue that the more we learn about the universe, the more the “case for God” is strengthened.
You may have found one of the issues, many people do not believe in God therefore they do not see their hypocrisy or they feel that they are above everyone so they are not being hypocritical at all. When one sees themselves as superior they tend to neglect their own shortcomings. This also makes a tough challenge for believers since we have the task of trying to make things better without judging others. People that don’t understand the fundamentals of Christianity seldom comprehend that the followers often judge themselves more than anyone else and they are often aware that they are flawed. In today’s world where sharing moral views makes a person an outsider or “nut” the challenge has become even more evident.
Every day we are being ridiculed (or worse) and yet we must remember to share our views with love. In the end we will not be the judges and the best we can hope for is that we used our free will to do the right thing.
Alice Cooper (yes, he is a Christian) put it well:
I could not agree more, everyone cannot wait to jump on a Christian when they make a mistake but a Christian is not allowed to point out others mistakes without being chastised.
Raise your fist and yell!
The problem I have with modern atheists is that they’ve essentially become a religion themselves. I can’t remember who it was, but somebody once referred to it as the “new fundamentalism,” with Richard Dawkins as its leader. They think they have all the answers and try to force their atheism onto you. If you don’t agree with them, they make it their mission to destroy you. Some even troll Christian videos on YouTube and say nasty things like, “It’s all made up, kiddies. No such thing as magical space wizard. Now grow up, losers” or “The Bible is for retards.” And so on. It’s pathetic. It also demonstrates that a lot of atheists are insecure about their beliefs, so they need to go online and demonize Christians to make themselves feel better.
And yeah, I knew Alice Cooper was a Christian. He’s also a rare conservative rock star, although he doesn’t think that music and politics should mix, and I tend to agree.
As for Cenk Uygur, I’ve never liked him. I always thought he was a progressive blowhard with nothing substantive to say; he used to be on Al Gore’s CurrentTV, if memory serves, and got all of two viewers before the channel was sold to Al Jazeera. He’s basically setting his kid up to get picked on by naming him Prometheus. I can already see kids cracking jokes about “stealing fire” and “an eagle eating your liver.”
“The problem I have with modern atheists is that they’ve essentially become a religion themselves.”
I’m with Doug. What does that MEAN!?
Emmanuel: By that I mean, they behave exactly how they believe Christians to behave (or rather, their straw man version of Christianity that exists in the minds of clowns like Dawkins). They like to force their non-beliefs onto others, and try to single out and destroy those who disagree with them.
You even have atheists who gather together on Sundays to talk about their atheism. 😉
LOL! They also like to whine about how “oppressed” they are and hold ridiculous “freedom from religion” conferences in the Bible Belt to make themselves feel better:
Or they think they deserve to be recognized as a “minority group.” I kid you not:
To be fair to atheists, there are occasions where they do have a point: ‘Atheist airman must swear ‘so help me God’ or get out in November’
The article goes on to say that this is something that has been foisted upon the Air Force by Congress. I don’t know all the legalities, but if true I don’t see why there can’t be an option for a secular oath. The whole story seems bizarre to me.
It does seem bizarre, I’ll admit that.
Personally, if it were me, I wouldn’t fire someone on those grounds. Then again, if I were an atheist/agnostic, I wouldn’t throw it in people’s faces either and take the oath anyway.
I just want to thank Mr. Uygur’s atheist fan for trying to troll the comments section. The screen shot you provided says a lot about you. Unfortunately, it’s all incredibly sad.
I figured it was only a matter of time before the Ugyur cultists came out of the woodwork to troll here. He seems to have an internet presence, although it’s as miniscule if not more miniscule as his short-lived TV show was.
There’s a Reddit “The Young Turks” page that they’ve been coming over from for days now, although no one has said anything. They probably know that they’d actually have to put forth a coherent thought here, so they stay away. On Reddit the trolls roam free — provided you agree with the Redditor. If you’re a conservative and you’re able to tactfully cut through their personal attacks and gibberish, then your comments disappear.
Reddit? I’m not surprised. That site is inhabited by liberal hipster types who are obsessed with irony and love to bash conservatives at every moment. I’ve avoided going there because of how quickly they delete dissenting opinions.
That screenshot you provided shows just how immature these progressive atheists/Ugyur cultists really are. They’re bankrupt of constructive thought.
Yes, ‘immature’ is the right word. I don’t know how someone can read my post, see how I interact with readers, and then think my feelings would be hurt or that I’d be angry over “JesusCocks”. I just feel sorry for a guy like that. I’ll post the screenshot because its illustrative of how trolls operate, but when I go out to dinner with my wife tonight or I’m reading a book before I go to bed I won’t be hung up on some dumb comment.