The new Justice League trailer arrived today, and the good news is that it looks awesome. The bad news is that Batman v Superman looked just as amazing and then turned out to be a sloppy mess.

Zack Snyder is an strong visual artist, but at this point in his career it seems like his Achilles heel is a propensity to sign off on scripts that are half-baked.

Check out the trailer below, watch my YouTube video, and then let me know that you think about the fate of Justice League in the comments below. I really hope Warner Bros. took the fans’ criticism to heart, because overall they know what they’re talking about.

Exit question: Can any movie be bad if the trailer use’s “Icky Thump,” by the White Stripes? If Justice League doesn’t do Jack White proud then your friendly neighborhood blogger we be one angry blogger…

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About the Author Douglas Ernst

I'm a former Army guy who believes success comes through hard work, honesty, optimism, and perseverance. I believe seeing yourself as a victim creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. I believe in God. I'm a USC Trojan with an MA in Political Science from American University.

14 comments

  1. I do think that Warner Bros. has taken the BvS criticism into account, given that the tone of this movie seems lighter and more accessible to a broader audience. So far, I like what I’ve seen. I hope it does well, because DC can’t afford for this to bomb.

    I’ve seen the extended cut of BvS, and I personally think it is an improvement. However, things like the tone and Jesse Eisenberg’s performance are still the same. I would recommend checking it out if a friend could loan it to you, or if you could rent it for cheap later on.

    1. “I do think that Warner Bros. has taken the BvS criticism into account, given that the tone of this movie seems lighter and more accessible to a broader audience. So far, I like what I’ve seen. I hope it does well, because DC can’t afford for this to bomb.”

      If this is another Warner Bros. movie that looks really cool and then turns out to be a mixed back, then I don’t know what I’ll do. That will be painful.

      “I’ve seen the extended cut of BvS, and I personally think it is an improvement. However, things like the tone and Jesse Eisenberg’s performance are still the same. I would recommend checking it out if a friend could loan it to you, or if you could rent it for cheap later on.”

      Agreed on the loaner situation. There is no way I’m paying for the extended cut. 😉

  2. I want this to be good SO SO badly. And part of me will accept (maybe even tear up) just seeing a live JL on screen.

    It does bug me a bit that Bruce isn’t working with Clark on building the league. Let’s see… very FIRST appearance was Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman (yep), Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter (with Batman & Superman joining a bit later – like following issue I think). That could be a tribute there. Just I’ve always liked best the JLA issues built upon a solid friendship as a character anchor. Whether Bruce & Clark in the main one, or Booster & Beetle in some of the others. There’s a lot of indications this is more nu52 JL than classic (like, I’m willing to bet you’re going to see a lot of overlap between this and http://amzn.to/2a4eyI0), which I think is a shame, I think right now the market may like a very silver-y throwback movie of sheer insane fun (it worked for Guardians). At least even if this is soul crushingly bad, I’ll always have the INCREDIBLY GOOD cartoon (seriously if you’ve never watched it and want some JL prep, GO WATCH IT)

    Oh and sorry new kid, Grant Gustin is still the best Barry Allen.

    And why hasn’t WB put Timm or Dini in charge of their live movies? That pair made solid, SOLID gold with the animated universe, seems idiotic that they weren’t handed the keys to the live one.

    1. “I want this to be good SO SO badly. And part of me will accept (maybe even tear up) just seeing a live JL on screen.”

      So what you’re saying is that you’ll be like me when the first Spider-Man movie came out? Gotcha. 🙂

      “It does bug me a bit that Bruce isn’t working with Clark on building the league. Let’s see… very FIRST appearance was Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman (yep), Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter (with Batman & Superman joining a bit later – like following issue I think). That could be a tribute there. Just I’ve always liked best the JLA issues built upon a solid friendship as a character anchor. Whether Bruce & Clark in the main one, or Booster & Beetle in some of the others. There’s a lot of indications this is more nu52 JL than classic (like, I’m willing to bet you’re going to see a lot of overlap between this and http://amzn.to/2a4eyI0), which I think is a shame, I think right now the market may like a very silver-y throwback movie of sheer insane fun (it worked for Guardians). At least even if this is soul crushingly bad, I’ll always have the INCREDIBLY GOOD cartoon (seriously if you’ve never watched it and want some JL prep, GO WATCH IT).”

      This may be where my lack of DC knowledge influences my thinking, but I like Bruce and Diana working together to put together the JLA. Also, the part of me that still remembers what it was like to be a single guy…can’t help thinking about how it would be nearly impossible to work professionally with Wonder Woman without going mad. How does Bruce work with her alone at night and not flirt with her. No man is that strong, I tell you! No man!

      “And why hasn’t WB put Timm or Dini in charge of their live movies?”

      Excellent question.

  3. I agree, the trailer definitely portrays Justice League in more lighter, jovial tone, no doubt in reaction to the negative criticism of Batman V Superman being too dark. Same for having Ben Affleck’s Batman get all the attention, partly because he’s being set-up as the Nick Fury/Tony Stark of the team but also because even those who hated BvS thought he was the best aspect about that movie. Could also be why there wasn’t even a mention of Superman (for obvious, spoilery reasons) even though he will be in Justice League as well.

    As for the other Justice League members, there just wasn’t enough of Jay Miller as Vic Stone/Cyborg in the trailer to get a beat on how he might do in the final cut, although it definitely looks like the character right out the comic book pages. Jason Momoa as Arthur Curry/Aquaman might as well be a watered-down (HA!) Thor, because that’s definitely the vibe I got from him in this trailer. And I thought the best part was actually Ezra Miller as Barry Allen/The Flash, who while it’s hard not to compared him to Grant Gustin’s Barry from CW’s The Flash, there does seem as though there are enough differences between the CW Flash and the DC Cinematic Universe Flash, particularly how their super speed powers are portrayed. Although I do think there will be those comparing the Bruce Wayne/Barry Allen scene to the Tony Stark/Peter Parker scene from Captain America: Civil War.

    Speaking of trailers, the one for Wonder Woman looks fantastic! If the movie is as good as that trailer suggests, then DC will finally have a non-Batman hit on their hands.

    1. “Jason Momoa as Arthur Curry/Aquaman might as well be a watered-down (HA!) Thor, because that’s definitely the vibe I got from him in this trailer.”

      I’m going to cut them some slack on that one because they had to figure out a way to not make Aquaman a big joke. It stinks that a single cartoon can get a character branded for decades… Heh.

      “And I thought the best part was actually Ezra Miller as Barry Allen/The Flash, who while it’s hard not to compared him to Grant Gustin’s Barry from CW’s The Flash, there does seem as though there are enough differences between the CW Flash and the DC Cinematic Universe Flash, particularly how their super speed powers are portrayed.”

      I’ll let you and Nate hash that one out. I’m out of my league (no pun intended — I swear!) on that one.

      “Speaking of trailers, the one for Wonder Woman looks fantastic! If the movie is as good as that trailer suggests, then DC will finally have a non-Batman hit on their hands.”

      I wasn’t sure if they could pull that World War I thing off, but it looks like that may be the case. Very cool.

  4. I’m going to have to respectfully disagree on this one, although I will note the little message at the beginning of the trailer kind of implying that this is just a sneak peak at a project that is still very unfinished and likely subject to change quite a bit.

    First off, as a lifelong Flash fan I’ve just got to say that Ezra Miller was NOT Barry Allen. His performance in the trailer was about as Barry Allen as Eisenberg was Lex Luthor. He’s clearly not an amalgamation of Flash characters either, because of the four guys who’ve held the mantle there wasn’t a single one of them who was the type of pathetic social misfit that would have been motivated to join the Justice League by a sheer lack of friends.

    Also, I though Batfleck’s lines were pretty weak. “So, you’re fast”. “So, I hear you can talk to fish”. “I’m real when it’s useful.” I kind of expect a bit wittier dialogue from a guy who is one of the brightest minds in the DC Universe.

    I do like Momoa’s Aquaman quite a bit, though. Poor Aquaman has been the butt of too many jokes for far too long. The ruler of a kingdom that covers 70% of the Earth’s surface should command a presence and Momoa does just that. I was pretty impressed with the Wonder Woman trailer as well, so I’m looking forward to seeing Gal Gadot in her solo film and playing a bigger role in the team up as well.

    As for Cyborg…I’ll have to wait til the next one because there was really nothing to judge here.

    The new Suicide Squad trailer looked fantastic too, although it was sort of unnecessary because I’m already sold on that one. I still believe that one of the key strengths of the DC Universe is that unlike Marvel, where most of the characters operate out of the same city, it’s easier to separate characters and stories into their own sub-universes (Gotham, Metropolis, Keystone/Central etc.) and give them their own distinctive flavor. I feel like Warner Bros. rushed DC into this in a desperate attempt to emulate the MCU’s success and I won’t be the least bit surprised if the Justice films fail while the solo stories shine.

  5. Affleck is lame.

    Grant Gustin isn’t Flash here cause…it’s a movie and thats TV and some other reason…who knows but this Flash is lame.

    the interesting people are interesting because they didn’t talk much…Aquaman and Cyborg.

    Gail Gadot is a goddess. As Wonder Woman, too. Dear god spare us a romance between Affleck and Gadot…please. God no. If I were Affleck, I would not hit on Wonder Woman because I would know I’m Affleck, and would be embarrassed for myself.

    Did I mention Affleck is lame? ‘so your fast’ ‘so you talk to fish’ …waiting for ‘so your part robot’ and ‘your way out of my league because I suck’ …I wonder if he has a moral quandary over interacting with Gadot since he’s been a cheerleader and apologist for the people that want to her people dead…doubt it, that requires a mild amount of self-awareness from the mouth-breather.

    Sorry, for all the insults Doug.

    Maybe it will be good, but I doubt it. I think the DC movie guys, the directors they’ve hired and the actors playing the parts don’t really get the heroes and universe they are playing, and they are just stabbing in the dark to get it right.

    Suicide squad for example. The comic book went out of it’s way to humanize the villains, not excuse their actions, but simply explain their motivations and choices. So far the movie looks like we are going to celebrate crazy people and their crazy …stuff…BOOM, BANG, I’M BAD, BUY A TICKET!!

    The sales will be there, but it looks shallow.

    1. “Sorry, for all the insults Doug.”

      Tell us how you really feel, Chuck! Haha. 🙂

      “Maybe it will be good, but I doubt it. I think the DC movie guys, the directors they’ve hired and the actors playing the parts don’t really get the heroes and universe they are playing, and they are just stabbing in the dark to get it right. Suicide squad for example. The comic book went out of it’s way to humanize the villains, not excuse their actions, but simply explain their motivations and choices. So far the movie looks like we are going to celebrate crazy people and their crazy … stuff … BOOM, BANG, I’M BAD, BUY A TICKET!! The sales will be there, but it looks shallow.”

      I would say there is a very high probability of you being right on that one.

  6. Thing is, I want the film to be good and do good. It’s a positive thing to have a quality alternative to Marvel and Disney. The regular cut of a BvS was certainly disappointing (haven’t watched the long one yet, and I’m in no hurry to sit through it again anytime soon).

    I think the JL trailer looks pretty good, though they’re really hard-selling Badass!Aquaman. The Flash here didn’t wow me. I was more impressed with how the Wonder Woman trailer looks, Gadot is gorgeous.

    1. “Thing is, I want the film to be good and do good. It’s a positive thing to have a quality alternative to Marvel and Disney. The regular cut of a BvS was certainly disappointing (haven’t watched the long one yet, and I’m in no hurry to sit through it again anytime soon).”

      A rising tide lifts all boats, which is why I’m not sure why so many D.C. and Marvel fans weirdly try and tear down the other guy’s product. If it’s bad, then it’s bad — but don’t go out of your way to try and find an excuse to dislike it. I don’t know why people do that.

      “I think the JL trailer looks pretty good, though they’re really hard-selling Badass! Aquaman.”

      True. I wonder if he will crack a smile at any point in the film.

      “The Flash here didn’t wow me. I was more impressed with how the Wonder Woman trailer looks, Gadot is gorgeous.”

      I’m still just thankful the world did not get subjected to Justin Long as the Flash. And yes, I agree with you on the Wonder Woman trailer and Gadot.

  7. The thing that makes Aquaman tough for writers is that his two most popular incarnations are totes opposite (grizzled hardass and giant ham). Also, is, uh… Bruce revealing his secret identity to everybody here?

    1. “Also, is, uh… Bruce revealing his secret identity to everybody here?”

      It will be interesting to see how that is handled. I think it’s worth the risk in the case of Wonder Woman. 😉

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