Germany-Shariah-Police

Imagine, if you will, a situation where the “Jesus police” were arrested in 2014 for harassing citizens as they went into bars and casinos.

Imagine, if you will, a situation where that German court ruled one year later that the “Jesus police” — adorned with bright orange vests that specifically saying “Jesus police — were granted permission to continue their “patrols.”

Would U.S. media cover it? Of course it would, which makes its silence on the very-real “Shariah police” ruling in Germany this week stand out even more.

BBC reported Thursday:

A German court has ruled that Islamists who patrolled a city’s streets as “Sharia police” did not break the law and will not be prosecuted. …

The group of Salafists – ultra-conservative Islamists – included Sven Lau, a preacher whose passport was seized this year after he visited Syria and a photo surfaced, showing him posing on a tank, with a Kalashnikov rifle slung around his neck.

He is suspected of trying to recruit Muslims to join jihadists fighting in Syria or Iraq and has spent some time in prison previously. He said he had gone to war-torn Syria in 2013 on a humanitarian mission.

Media will occasionally report on “no-go” zones in France. Similar debates have been made about parts of London. These “debates” are odd since it is quite obvious to objective observers that mass migration is radically transforming Europe.

The nonprofit organization Gatestone Institute reported in January:

  • A 120-page research paper entitled “No-Go Zones in the French Republic: Myth or Reality?” documented dozens of French neighborhoods “where police and gendarmerie cannot enforce the Republican order or even enter without risking confrontation, projectiles, or even fatal shootings.”
  • In October 2011, a 2,200-page report, “Banlieue de la République” (Suburbs of the Republic) found that Seine-Saint-Denis and other Parisian suburbs are becoming “separate Islamic societies” cut off from the French state and where Islamic Sharia law is rapidly displacing French civil law.
  • The report also showed how the problem is being exacerbated by radical Muslim preachers who are promoting the social marginalization of Muslim immigrants in order to create a parallel Muslim society in France that is ruled by Sharia law.
  • The television presenter asks: “What if we went to the suburbs?” Obertone replies: “I do not recommend this. Not even we French dare go there anymore. But nobody talks about this in public, of course. Nor do those who claim, ‘long live multiculturalism,’ and ‘Paris is wonderful!’ dare enter the suburbs.”

People wonder why Donald Trump’s call to temporarily ban Muslim immigration resonates with primary voters, but they never put that support within its proper context: The “Average Joe” can see what is happening in Europe — and he sees what empowered “Shariah police” in Syria and Iraq have done — and then the president of the United States literally says terror in the name of Islam has nothing to do with Islam.

The police are the enforcers of the law. The threat of physical violence for non-compliance always looms when they are present, which is why unauthorized “police” forces are so frightening.

Non-religious activists like to say things like “all religions are the same,” but that is not true. All religions are not the same.

There are no serious Christian terrorist networks around the globe, and there are certainly not communities where groups of men go out dressed as the “Jesus police” to harass people.

Christians are called to be witnesses. They will attest to the glory and power of Christ, but they are not naturally disposed to violence.

They would much rather “turn the other cheek.”

They would much rather “render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s.”

They celebrate life — because Christ defeated death.

Fire and brimstone speeches given by certain preachers speak of God’s coming judgment — not some human responsibility to carry it out for Him.

Christian beliefs are worlds apart from “police” forces and suicide bombers and tens-of-millions of Shariah Law advocates — who would rather have people “behave” at the point of a gun than allow them to use the free will God has given them.

Who is the better person — the man who is free to do evil but chooses good, or the man who only “behaves” because he lives in a physical, mental, and spiritual police state?

Germany will have absorbed nearly 2 million refugees from the Middle East and North Africa by the end of next year. It doesn’t take a genius to realize there will be more “Shariah” problems in the decades to come.

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About the Author Douglas Ernst

I'm a former Army guy who believes success comes through hard work, honesty, optimism, and perseverance. I believe seeing yourself as a victim creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. I believe in God. I'm a USC Trojan with an MA in Political Science from American University.

15 comments

  1. This stuff is just appalling. We have a version of the “Christian police” here, but there is no comparison. They move about the area looking out for stranded motorists, elderly people out walking, and kids about to get themselves into trouble. There are not nearly enough of them, nor are they really a formal group. They’re simply good people who care about their neighbors and are ready to lend a hand if needed. There’s a huge difference and you can see how it manifests itself. Christians follow a God of love, mercy, and redemption. The media, the politicians, so many people do not seem to understand this and our failure to recognize these profound differences are really going to be our downfall.

    1. Think about the most vile “Christian group” in America. Let’s just go with Westboro Baptist Church, which is actually a small family in Kansas. There is no world-wide movement connected to their philosophy. There are no sophisticated networks. They do not have state funding as, say, Iran supports Hezbollah.

      Also, as despicable as the actions by the Westboro bunch are, at the end of the day they’re telling people God will be the one passing judgement. This is a far cry from what we see in the Middle East, where people suspected of being gay are bound and gagged, taken up to the top of tall buildings, and then thrown off in front of large crowds.

  2. Of course, they are not really “police” (state-certified law enforcement officers, duly appointed by the duly-elected government), but self-appointed vigilantes. No better than a lynch mob.

    To allow immigrants to make and enforce their own laws is not even political correctness. It is dhimmitude.

  3. Colonization or Immigration, this is the simple question. Mr. Obama said that the Syrian refugees are “like the Pilgrims” who came to the new world to settle. Is he saying we are the Indians?

    Is the West being colonized?

    1. A lot of refugees wind up in rural parts of America. Interesting, isn’t it? Politically, liberals control most cities…so they fill rural areas they don’t control with people who don’t speak English who will largely depend on the government for all their needs.

  4. So, if I put on a red vest that says “Christian Police” and walk around in downtown Las Vegas telling people not to gamble, what US law have I violated?

    I haven’t arrested anybody, I’m not flashing a badge or any other vaguely-legitimate police uniform, so you can’t get me for impersonating a police officer.

    I’m just exercising my free speech.

    1. “So, if I put on a red vest that says ‘Christian Police’ and walk around in downtown Las Vegas telling people not to gamble, what US law have I violated? I haven’t arrested anybody, I’m not flashing a badge or any other vaguely-legitimate police uniform, so you can’t get me for impersonating a police officer. I’m just exercising my free speech.”

      It depends on how you’re conveying your message, Chris. If you and a bunch of other men started to surround others in a threatening manner…causing people to fear for their safety, then you’re doing more than just practicing free speech.

      If you present yourself as a legitimate “policing” authority for the neighborhood with a “watch your back” attitude, then you are not simply exercising your right to free speech.

  5. Well, sir, your Google-fu is weak. 10 minutes on Google finds that the guy behind the Sharia Police (note, that’s ENGLISH, not German, on those vests, funny for a German organization) is one Sven Lau, a German-born ex-firefighter. According to Google translates of the German sites, their sole activity for the “Sharia Police” was to hand out business cards for a local mosque. Sure looks to me like Herr Lau was trying to get somebody’s goat.

    Also found via Google – The central council of Muslims in Germany (ZMD) condemned the activities. “These few teen yobs do not speak in our name,” chairman Ayman A. Mazyek told the Tagesspiegel am Sonntag newspaper. “These people are perverting the name of our religion. With this shrill and foolish action, they are really hurting Muslims.”.

    “Yobs” is British English for “The antithesis of what a good boy should be – rude, obnoxious, violent and stupid.”

    1. “Well, sir, your Google-fu is weak. 10 minutes on Google finds that the guy behind the Sharia Police (note, that’s ENGLISH, not German, on those vests, funny for a German organization) is one Sven Lau, a German-born ex-firefighter. According to Google translates of the German sites, their sole activity for the “Sharia Police” was to hand out business cards for a local mosque. Sure looks to me like Herr Lau was trying to get somebody’s goat.”

      What are you talking about? “Google-fu,” like I’m in some sort of stupid sparring match with you? Are you now trying to imply BBC is some sort of anti-Muslim propaganda outlet? The guy had his passport revoked after hanging out with terrorists in Syria. That doesn’t just happen out of the blue. That isn’t a “getting someone’s goat” kind of guy. Yes, of course, I’m sure the “Shariah Police” were all just a nice guys handing out business cards like run-of-the-mill Mormons in the U.S.

      “Also found via Google – The central council of Muslims in Germany (ZMD) condemned the activities. ‘These few teen yobs do not speak in our name,’ chairman Ayman A. Mazyek told the Tagesspiegel am Sonntag newspaper. ‘These people are perverting the name of our religion. With this shrill and foolish action, they are really hurting Muslims.’.”

      I thought they were just handing out business cards? Which is it? And even if they are handing out business cards, it’s for…Shariah. How did the cards read? Perhaps it was something like: “Come learn about Shariah…and why it’s totally legit to throw gay people off tall buildings.”

      The Orlando terrorist’s dad also condemned his son’s actions…and then it turned out he was making online videos about how the Taliban are all swell guys. I’m not sure why you feel the need to figure out ways to minimize the cultural implications of “Shariah Police” running around Germany, the massive influx of 1.1 million migrants from Shariah-friendly parts of the world, etc.

      Maybe for your next trick you can explain away the wave of sexual assaults committed in Cologne on New Year’s Eve.

      Update: Thanks for linking to the DW article. Here was one of the related stories at the bottom of the page from Dec. 15, 2015:

      “The 35-year-old Salafist preacher Sven Lau was detained on Tuesday morning in the town of Mönchengladbach in North Rhine-Westphalia, according to Spiegel Online and WDR.
      The German Salafist convert is suspected of supporting the Syria-based “Jaish al-Muhajireen wal-Ansar” (JMA), which Germany lists as a terrorist organization.

      The Federal Prosecutor’s office suspects him of being the JMA’s main contact person in Germany’s Rhine region, recruiting two jihadists and supporting the terrorist organization both financially and logistically, Spiegel Online reported. Lau was thought to have bought three night vision devices for the jihadists and to have delivered 250 euros ($ 275) in cash to a jihadist fighter in Syria.”

      Just a ex-firefighter, right? Gotcha. Kids these days…always hanging out with Islamic terrorist groups. Maybe he’ll grow (or detonate?) out of it.

  6. Bottom line, Douglas – it’s not illegal to walk around and hand out business cards, even with a shiny vest on. Nobody over the age of 5 thought these guys were real police, and the fact that they had vests made in English instead of German suggests that they were playing for an audience.

    So now, thanks to individuals like you, five yobs with time on their hands have morphed into “OMG the Mooslems Has TAKEN OVER all Germandy !!11!!

    You. Got. Played. And you played right into the hands of the radicals, who are desperately trying to recruit people on the back of a “Clash of Civilizations” fairy tale.

    1. “Bottom line, Douglas – it’s not illegal to walk around and hand out business cards, even with a shiny vest on. Nobody over the age of 5 thought these guys were real police, and the fact that they had vests made in English instead of German suggests that they were playing for an audience.”

      Really? I lived in Germany for years as a young guy, and I know for a fact that police don’t arrest you for random pranks and business cards. I also know that everyone my age spoke English — and that was in the 1990s. Why do you keep ignoring the fact that the guy’s passport was revoked for his ties to terrorists? That seems just a tad important. Maybe you gloss over that because it destroys your delusion these are jest merry Muslim pranksters.

      “So now, thanks to individuals like you, five yobs with time on their hands have morphed into “OMG the Mooslems Has TAKEN OVER all Germandy!!11!!”

      Notice how I put forth coherent arguments and facts that are uncomfortable for you to hear, and your only response is to pretend I wrote “OMG…Mooslems..!!!”

      Objective observers can see how desperate you must be.

      “You. Got. Played. And you played right into the hands of the radicals, who are desperately trying to recruit people on the back of a ‘Clash of Civilizations’ fairy tale.”

      I got “played,” and so did the German authorities who arrested him, the officials who stripped his passport, the BBC, the German newspaper you directed me to that covered his membership in Jaish al-Muhajireen wal-Ansar” (JMA), etc.

      When are you going to comment on the sexual assaults in Cologne? I think the number eventually topped off somewhere over 125. Were those just “Muslim boys being Muslim boys,” too? How silly of me to think 1.1 million immigrants from the Middle East and Northern Africa might not excel in the “respecting women’s rights” department.

      Seriously though, thanks for taking the time to read and comment. I want everyone to see the intellectual pretzels guys like you will twist into instead of admitting that Shariah law is going to cause massive headaches in Europe in the decades to come. The Paris attacks…the Brussels attack…the London attacks — this is just the beginning.

  7. When are you going to comment on the sexual assaults in Cologne? Never, because when somebody picks up the goalposts and moves them to the next county, I don’t respond.

    1. “When are you going to comment on the sexual assaults in Cologne? Never, because when somebody picks up the goalposts and moves them to the next county, I don’t respond.”

      Cologne, Germany, is “moving the goalposts” from … Germany? You’re right…Shariah Police in Germany led by an ISIS-supporting preacher has nothing to do with the Shariah-practicing migrants who raped and assaulted over 100 German women on New Year’s Eve. Why bother talking about the two? Move along. Move along. Nothing to see here.

      Chris, you’re really taking it on the chin. You may want to tap out.

  8. Except it’s a lie to call these people “Shariah Police.” The were almost immediately arrested, and are not and have not been allowed to “patrol” anything except their front rooms. As you yourself noted on Camestro’s blog, the appeals court may yet send them to prison. Five guys walking around on the street of one city in a nation of millions for a couple of nights is not and never was a “police force.”

    You might as well say that because a local KKK chapter burnt a cross on somebody’s front yard and got off on a technicality that the USA is ruled by the KKK.

    1. “Five guys walking around on the street of one city in a nation of millions for a couple of nights is not and never was a ‘police force.'”

      Your comment would be a winner…if we were living in dimension where the KKK and its 5,000 or so remaining members equaled the number of Shariah-practicing Muslims around the globe.

      What is even more bizarre (but not, since I know you don’t want to talk about it), is that you neglect to acknowledge the broader context. Here is the Gatestone Institute report for you once more:

      A 120-page research paper entitled “No-Go Zones in the French Republic: Myth or Reality?” documented dozens of French neighborhoods “where police and gendarmerie cannot enforce the Republican order or even enter without risking confrontation, projectiles, or even fatal shootings.”

      In October 2011, a 2,200-page report, “Banlieue de la République” (Suburbs of the Republic) found that Seine-Saint-Denis and other Parisian suburbs are becoming “separate Islamic societies” cut off from the French state and where Islamic Sharia law is rapidly displacing French civil law.

      The report also showed how the problem is being exacerbated by radical Muslim preachers who are promoting the social marginalization of Muslim immigrants in order to create a parallel Muslim society in France that is ruled by Sharia law.

      The television presenter asks: “What if we went to the suburbs?” Obertone replies: “I do not recommend this. Not even we French dare go there anymore. But nobody talks about this in public, of course. Nor do those who claim, ‘long live multiculturalism,’ and ‘Paris is wonderful!’ dare enter the suburbs.

      Now consider the town of Sumte, Germany. The population of the town was 100, and then they were forced to take in 750 refugees.

      Riddle me this, Chris: Do you honestly believe Sumte, Germany, in 10 years will have moved forwards or backwards in terms of civil rights, respect for western values, etc.? I’m willing to bet a handsome amount of cash that Sumte will be a much less tolerant town than it was as of Oct. 31, 2015.

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