Avengers director Joss Whedon has shown his cards, and he’s holding at least one liberal joker (or was that a Loki?). Whedon essentially told the New York Times he has a scene that could serve as a commercial for the Democrat Party, but ditched it because it slowed down the movie. But that begs the question: What kind of claptrap made the final cut, Joss?

Remember when the director of Captain America went out of his way to say Cap wouldn’t be “a flag waver”? Remember when Marvel then changed the title in Russia to “The First Avenger” to make a few extra bucks? The movie succeeded, despite Marvel’s efforts to sabotage a good thing.

The Avengers opens in two weeks, and it looks like conservatives once again must be wary. Joss Whedon, who up until this point gave me nothing but confidence, has shown his cards—and there is at least one liberal joker in there (or should I say a Loki?). Hat tip to the fourcolormedia monitor:

New York Times: What would be an example of something you didn’t figure out until later in the process?

Joss Whedon: One of the best scenes that I wrote was the beautiful and poignant scene between Steve and Peggy [Carter] that takes place in the present. And I was the one who was like, Guys, we need to lose this. It was killing the rhythm of the thing. And we did have a lot of Cap, because he really was the in for me. I really do feel a sense of loss about what’s happening in our culture, loss of the idea of community, loss of health care and welfare and all sorts of things. I was spending a lot of time having him say it, and then I cut that (emphasis added).

Why? Why must every liberal writer feel the need to beat their audience over the head with statism? I wouldn’t mind as much, but Joss Whedon has everything historically ass-backwards. Captain America was frozen after World War II, before Medicaid and Medicare even existed. Social Security morphed into something entirely new and different than the “Social Security” that FDR signed into existence (i.e, much more expansive). Hundreds of billions have been sunk into individual entitlement programs since their inception and, in fact, the “loss of community” Whedon frets over is due in large part to many of the programs liberals shill for. When the federal government usurps the important roles local community leaders, family and faith-based organizations play in society the result is more poverty, out-of-wedlock birth rates and the destruction of the family unit.

What’s worse, Whedon didn’t cut the bit because he realized it would be a bone-headed move to insert blatant liberal claptrap into Cap’s mouth—he did it because it slowed down the rhythm of the movie. Who knows how many other leftist talking points made it into the film.

Let’s be honest: The idea that Captain America would be anything other than a conservative (if we’re going to play that game, Joss Whedon), is a joke. Let’s go down the list, shall we?

  • Captain America is a guy who literally wraps himself in the American flag. Leftist American professors would hold classes titled “The Jingoism of Captain America” each semester, they’d write a new chapter for the textbook each year, and then they’d make their kids buy the latest version for $50 a pop. Couple that with Cap’s blonde hair and blue eyes and college campus Progressives would have entire campaigns dedicated to demonizing him.
  • Steve Rogers is a big Boy Scout. He’s a straight arrow. I can’t imagine he would have been at Woodstock, if given the opportunity. He would have been a West Point guy (hence, Captain America), and West Point doesn’t churn out too many liberals.
  • Captain America is a super solider, and one who would undoubtedly live his life in accordance with The Seven Army Values: Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service. Honor. Integrity. Personal Courage. Ask the guy who has collected unemployment checks for 99 straight weeks, Joss Whedon, what he thinks about each of those words. My suspicion is that the psychological profile that manifests itself would look nothing like Captain America’s.
  • Good soldiers don’t make excuses; they “adapt and overcome.” Do you want to know who does make excuses? Liberals. In fact, even speaking about “personal responsibility” is considered racist code language.
  • Ask yourself whether Captain America would have a worldview more like American Sniper Chris Kyle, or Sean Penn. That’s what I thought.

The list can go on and on. The fact is, Steve Rogers is Captain America, not Mr. America. He’s a military man. An infantryman. He stared down the Nazis, but yet liberal writers would have us believe he’d side with liberal moral relativists in the year 2012? Give me a break.

Regardless, I don’t even want to play this game, but liberals at Marvel keep making these things an issue. When I go to see The Avengers I don’t want to get a campaign commercial for Barack Obama or the Democrat Party. Stop. Please. You’re embarrassing yourself, and ensuring that guys like me don’t defend you when Democrats turn their social engineering on the comics industry due to studies on violence.

Dear Joss Whedon,

Watch Thomas Sowell for a bit. Learn something. You can thank me later.

Update: The results are in, and it looks like Whedon denied his urge to overtly politicize the film. There are very interesting ideas to explore in The Avengers, but Joss never goes out of his way to tell his viewers what to think. Smart move.


  1. How do you know Capt want the one saying we didn’t need that in my day while someone else pontificated?

    Also, judging by the super-strong libertarian themes of Firefly I wouldn’t lump Wheedon into the Liberal basket so quick.

  2. I guess we’ll find out when the DVD comes out, although the context of the NYT interview gives me the feeling it’s the exact opposite.

    I never got into Firefire, but it’s my understanding that Tim Minnear is more of a libertarian.

  3. “I guess we’ll find out if my right-wing conspiracy intuition plays out WHEN I ACTUALLY SEE THE MOVIE.”


    1. The fact that he even created such a scene and wanted to put it in the movie is telling. The fact that he only took it out because it slowed the pacing is also interesting. It deserved to be talked about.

      Your sarcasm, in this instance, only makes you look silly and desperate.

  4. It was a big date for us actually for me to take my wife to see the Avengers. Several times after a notable line, she said, “no chance he’s not conservative.” How many times,however, do you have to get blindsided by what is compared to what it seemed at the time, before you learn, not to assume the loaf is there because you find a bread crumb. Yes there have been small but notable moments here and there (Firefly et al) to make one hope that just maybe Whedon could be that hollywood insider to bust open the silver screens iron curtain. However, Johanson was intimately involved with sean penn, Jackson’s rascism is so viceral its almost cliche. The rest I have no idea, what I do know, is that Whedon is at least interested in seeing these human elements of Marxism vs Americanism play out, and that has some value. The fact that the villian was a picture perfect Marxist in his “abandonment of individualism is true freedom” means only one thing to a functional human, alas liberalism has so sullied the waters of meaning from words, that in fact they actually believe that communism is an expression of individuality. They are correct of course, but only once. The choice being made, all subsequent choices are forever predestined. Never heard of you before a minute ago Doug, but I’ll be back. There is generations of work to do.

    1. Thanks for the comment, William. I too found the Communist angle on Loki very interesting, but was impressed with Whedon’s general even-handedness throughout the film. As you mentioned, he seems like someone who is generally an “idea” guy, and it served him well. Despite his earlier instinct to politicize things he pulled back and did what, deep down, he knew the film deserved.

      Can you imagine if he had left in some strange rant by Steve Rogers about the need for socialized health care? How weird would it be if we had seen Cap advocating public policies on screen that backed up Loki’s disdain for individual choice and freedom?

    2. well written.I am a widow raising my last two sons alone.
      I am so afraid theses tucked in here and there liberal messages take
      anchor in in my boy’s heart hopefully,truth will prevail.

    3. Thanks for the comment. It takes a strong person to do what you’re doing, and it sounds as if you’re instilling values in your sons that will serve them well.

      When many of these entitlement programs started they were geared towards women who were in your very same position. As a society, I don’t think you’d find many people who would disagree with providing assistance to women who find themselves suddenly widowed. However, liberals kept expanding the definition of “poor” and “needy” until it encompassed all sorts of groups they could attempt to buy off come election season.

      Now, the government is so large that both political parties play the game and there are few individuals of integrity who will do the right thing.

      Again, thanks for taking the time to read and comment. I appreciate it.

  5. Well said. I thought the characters were treated fairly. To me, Tony came off as the liberal dick in the film, while Cap was left alone as the traditionalist he was meant to be.

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